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Fisherman's Loop

Fisherman's Loop
A fixed loop. Quick to make. The name of the knot comes from the time when the fishermen could not write. Instead of a handwritten letter, the fisherman sent this knot home to his fiancee, with the two knots a bit separated. If it came back with the knots toghether, the answer was... YES!

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you can just tie a knot yourself you dont need to write this crap about tying knots.

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what the hellis this stuff.

Submitted by: boris
That it good

Submitted by: boris
COOL:

Submitted by: Bill Nelson- wnelson@up.net
Is this what is called the Swedish Love Knot?

Submitted by: Confused
Put written instructions!!

Submitted by: davidbd
Is this the origin of the phrase "ready to tie the knot?" regarding matrimoney?

Submitted by: nrfred
This is a variation of the Angler's knot. There are at least five different ways to tie a fisherman's knot. Some are more elegant than others. It is best if you can tie them in the dark becasue most really good fly fishing is done at night.

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Submitted by: cslee
Visualizing the tie of this knot, it appears to me as a knot some climbers use called an 'alpine butterfly'. A bloke in a climbing shop told me that one. I use the knot sometimes when setting up belay points when climbing for a loop that can take load from either tail.

Submitted by: Wesley
Hi.. do u have any info on how to tie a alhpa knot if u do pls email me.Thanks Email: utima16@icqmail.com

Submitted by: Spott
Actually, the name comes from the use of this knot (by fishermen) to attach a hook to a line in the middle. You take the finished knot, and stick the loop through the eye of a hood, and then aroudn the end of the hook. Pull tight, and !Viola! you have a hook in the MIDDLE of your line.

Submitted by: ddddddd
this is a very good knot

Submitted by: ae4se
this is one easy knot to tie and if you cant learn to tie this one forget it there is no hope for you to learn knots

Submitted by: dill
its just a fishermans knot with a loop in one end. thats all you had to say

Submitted by: Mr.Man
very cool

Submitted by: Dave Higgs
In South African Scouting it is often called a Middlemans Loop. It's main claim to fame being that it can make a loop (which will not slip) without needing either end of the rope. Hence as the name implies, it can be tied by a "middleman" in a climbing party.

Submitted by: Aziz T.
This knot is also called the butterfly knot.

Submitted by: Chris Roos
Need information on how to tie a sailor's knot

Submitted by: Amir Mortal
Actualy this is NOT the alpine butterfly knot. the alpine is made by forming a bite and then making two seperate twists under the bite and subsequently passing the original bite through the twists. take a closer look at Roper's Knots page

Submitted by: Curt
Another name for this is the Alpine Butterfly. It's used for the middle climber to clip onto a line while walking across a glacier. It is easy to untie after it's been weighted.

Submitted by: David - Seattle, WA
As noted above, this is DEFINITELY NOT the butterfly knot used in climbing. In addition to its "middleman" function, the actual butterfly knot can be used to isolate damaged sections of the rope and is safe to use without anything occupying the loop. The knot illustrated above is asymmetrical and could capsize if used in this manner. In fact, the knot above is just a slip knot with a half-hitch thrown over the loop -- do NOT use it for climbing or any other critical purpose!

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i found the picture informative.

Submitted by: morgan
is the sending home of the knot a way of asking the women to marry them?

Submitted by: Paul
also, called a linesman's loop. i've seen several websites that claim the linesman's loop and the alpine loop (OR alpine butterfly) to be the same knot. the alpine loop is useful in climbing (although decreases rope strength by 50 percent), buy dangerous because it's difficult to be certain it's be tied correctly. BE CERTAIN you understand the subtle differences between these two knots one is trustworthy, the other is NOT.

Submitted by: mike chapman
yo need to find the right spot to fish so you can cach fish like a pro

Submitted by: Dan Lehman
1) This is called the Fisherman's Loop (which is a loopknot of similar structure
to the Fisherman's Knot). But although the righthand image
is consistent with that name, the lefthand image of a tying
method is not.
2) The tying method produces a sort of mid-line loopknot that is
quicker, perhaps, but inferior in most uses to the Lineman's/Butterfly loop.
3) The Fisherman's knot was at one time, in fact, used qua mid-line loopknot; not long ago, an Austrian (Heinz Prohaska)
and, separately, German climbers proposed a similar structure
as an OFFSET bend for joining abseil ropes--an alternating sequence
of 3 Overhand knots. Google for "TFK Gudelius" and you should
get the link for a presentation of this.
4) "bite" => "BIGHT"
5) The strength of the Butterfly knot when loaded on the ends,
NOT the eye, is generally held to be well greater than "50%"
(though that's a sort of Rule of Thumb for knot strengths);
but much depends on the actual dressing of the knot
--e.g., there is a tendency for the legs of the eye to cross within
the knot body, or sometimes just abutt each other, and
these orientations give different geometries to the loaded line's
intial bends. What type of cordage also affects strength.
Similarly, as the knot is asymmetric, in addition to these differences of
orientation, it can depend on which end is opposed by the eye
when testing it qua loopknot.
(But one never sees such details of test results given!)

--dl*
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Submitted by: Dan Lehman
[Please amend prior submission to read:
[was:
>> an Austrian (Heinz Prohaska) and, separately,
>> German climbers proposed a similar structure

CHANGE TO:
'Austrian Heinz Prohaska and, separately, German
Jost Gudelius (climbers) proposed a similar structure'

(The change deletes "an" & gives Jost's name.)

Thanks,
--dl*
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Submitted by: ngeri
The name of this knot in Hungarian: Pillangó

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